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neuxue ([personal profile] neuxue) wrote in [community profile] baihe_media2024-12-18 12:27 pm

To Embers We Return (焚情) Read Along: Chapters 31-40

I know the novel has finished serialising and some of you have already finished reading it, but I've been having fun catching up in the comments of the previous chapter-by-chapter discussions so here's another read-along post. Whether you're also planning to binge-read the whole thing now that it's finished, or have already read it and want to relive the fun, or are following via [personal profile] douqi's translation, come and join me!

Note: I will not be writing detailed chapter summaries because I'd like to finish the novel sometime this decade, but I'll try to give at least brief notes on what happens, to help keep track of where in the story we are. I might also switch to 20 chapters at a time rather than 10 to keep the number of posts manageable but want to get to a nice multiple of 20 first.

Discussion of Chapters 1 to 10 can be found here.

Discussion of Chapters 11 to 20 can be found here.

Discussion of Chapters 21 to 30 can be found here.

The link to the novel on JJWXC is here; [personal profile] douqi's ongoing translation is here.
douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 31

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-18 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I am looking So Respectfully at Han Fu
With apologies to Shen Ni, when Han Fu first appeared, I immediately started shipping her and Bian Jin. PLEASE DO NOT KILL ME SHEN NI.

A future that has exhausted itself absorbing a past in order to claim some renewed vitality? Or something? I am no doubt reading too much into this.
I'm pointedly not saying anything.
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Re: Chapter 32

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-18 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Shen Ni and Bian Jin throwing a monster at Prince Wei's house is so delightfully absurd.
I loved the extreme basement-dwelling gamerbro loser vibes he had in this scene.

The mention of Bian Jin being a poor liar is interesting. *looks veeeeery closely at those sealed memories*
POINTEDLY NOT SAYING ANYTHING
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Re: Chapter 33

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-18 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The extremely charged bickering between Dou Xuanji and Li Si is like a pint of ice cream and I am eating it up with a spoon.
I love their dynamic so much.

I want a whole novel about her.
PLEASE NING YUAN

Though I also enjoyed Bian Jin being at a loss for words as to how to even begin to explain what happens to her at Shen Ni's touch.
I'm translating the Bian Jin's First Close Encounter with Sex Toys bit now and it's so fun.
douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 34

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-18 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
once again Ning Yuan is very good at writing these incredibly charged scenes
She is SO GOOD honestly Anglo fandom/profic writers could learn so much from her.

Also I both enjoyed and had a bit of a giggle at the almost literal 'I want to study her under a microscope' of the line
Someone in the novel's comments said something about 'Bian Jin is the code and Shen Ni is the codebreaker' and that is not unfair.

And I have so many questions about the reference data and what kind of ethical review was involved.
As do I! Like what did the ethics approval form even LOOK like.

douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 35

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-22 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like it would be very easy to flatten her character by having her just sulking that Bian Jin only sees her as a little sister and I like how instead she's you get a reinforcement of her understanding of Bian Jin and her ability to read people in general, in a way that also adds a level of maturity that I appreciate.

This is why I really appreciate Shen Ni as a character, because I feel so many younger protagonists fall into the trap of being mostly a Standard Ingenue. She's complex and scheming and really savvy not just about tech stuff but also about people, and the text really shows us that.

But also good lord girl can sajiao.
Word.

douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 36

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-22 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone save this poor plushie
Worse things happen to the plushie if you can believe it (it was the Black Box all along! Just joking... or am I).

Shen Ni calling to the kitchens for popcorn snacks whilst she watches the bounty hunters via spybird livestream is absolutely iconic.
I absolutely love this and love it becoming a running theme. All Shen Ni has ever wanted is to hang out with shijie, munch on snacks and dabble in non-urgent projects. Instead.

I absolutely lost it at 沈乖乖/Shen Guaiguai. Also I so badly want to see Bian Jin actually call her that at some point because I think it would short-circuit Shen Ni's brain.
POINTEDLY NOT SAYING ANYTHING (but also omg Ning Yuan your callback abilities are LEGEND).
douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 37

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-22 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Bian Jin (who hasn't slept well, for reasons of Shen Ni hugging her)
Poor Bian Jin, doomed to insomnia by reason of Too Horny for Wife.

Li Si is also very cool
I so badly want art of her with the sunglasses and the lollipop and the Gatling gun. But I have to get there in the translation first.

Also, how many times has she called Dou Xuanji a dog now? Once is an insult, twice is a grudge, but three times? That's just a kink.
It's also quite funny though because I feel Li Si has stronger puppy vibes than Dou Xuanji.
douqi: (zaowu)

Re: Chapter 38

[personal profile] douqi 2024-12-22 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Shen Ni agreed with an excess of humility
As she always does.

and greatly enjoys watching the surveillance footage of her shijie wiping the floor with them
Me @ Shen Ni: is this porn?? Are you watching porn when you should be at court??

I like that Shen Ni's obsession with Bian Jin does not prevent her from suspecting her. And also that there appears to be absolutely no cognitive dissonance there whatsoever. It's a fun brand of subtly unhinged.
I really like this, and the fact that it doesn't change the core of her feelings for Bian Jin a single iota.

a Shen Ni/Li Shan bad-idea ship
I would read this AU. They would be SO BAD for each other.

Li Shan absolutely obliterating him was such a delight to watch though
I love watching Li Chu get trodden lower and lower into the ground at every turn.

it had been a long time since shijie had punished her... SHEN NI. Control yourself. Or, you know, don't.
When a punishment is basically a reward.
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Re: Chapter 39

[personal profile] douqi 2025-01-01 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
it doesn't feel particularly subtle but just like that little flower, I do not care!
I feel like this is very much Ning Yuan's own vibe.

Shen Ni in the last part of the chapter, probably: I am extremely turned on.
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Re: Chapter 40

[personal profile] douqi 2025-01-01 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
All the Li Ruoyuan business is extremely murderboard-y.

It can't possibly be Shen Ni herself, can it?
I mean.... given our theories about Bian Jin, which I'm neither confirming nor denying, it's not impossible. Is it?

I was also pleasantly surprised when Bian Jin just told Shen Ni everything
I feel like this happens quite a bit, on both sides. Which makes for a nice change from the usual tropes!