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douqi ([personal profile] douqi) wrote in [community profile] baihe_media2024-06-23 09:25 pm

To Embers We Return (焚情) Read-Along: Chapters 11 to 20

Discussion of Chapters 1 to 10 can be found here.

The link to the novel on JJWXC is here.

Note: I'll try to catch up a little but will probably be a few days behind the actual chapter updates from now on, especially since she's going to drop about 10k words when the novel goes into VIP.
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Re: Chapter 16

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-07-12 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you're Covid-free. Covid sucks majorly! Hope you're over your jet lag.
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Re: Chapter 17

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-07-12 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely a consummation. ;-)

Boy, Shen Ni sure connected the dots pretty quickly ... figuring out almost instantly why Bian Jin said what she did before blacking out. I guess she's very in-tuned with Bian Jin. As one should be with the love of her life. :-)
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Re: Chapter 18

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-07-14 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Bian Jin married a spunky woman ... she probably doesn't know what she's in for. ha ha I vacillate between who's stronger between the two. Actually, I think they complement each other really beautifully.

‘Just act as if you love me, shijie.’ --> For some reason, this really punched me in the gut. There's such a yearning from Shen Ni that she herself won't even acknowledge. The fear of rejection, non-reciprocity ... they really have a long way to go. A bittersweet love.

I'm also really enjoying the relationship development. I like when the growth of a relationship is interspersed throughout the story. Sometimes, a story goes on for too long without doing this and it makes me lose interest.
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Re: Chapter 19

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-07-18 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
A cold shower can do wonders in certain situations. lol Might be too late for Bian Jin, though. Seems completely taken.
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Re: Chapter 11

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-08-07 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, I love that the closeness keeps developing.

also +1 to what scene? what scene?! now my brain is going to go overdrive imagining

(slowly catching up!)
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Re: Chapter 12

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-08-07 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Love having all the trauma splashed on a screen for people to watch!

Bian Jin drinks some nutrient broth sweetened with osmanthus blossom paste and falls asleep. Shen Ni draws Bian Jin gently closer, like any wife would, and lets Bian Jin's head rest on her shoulder, lending her a moment of peace.

very sweet!

I have a thing for hands and gloves so all these mentions are A+ to me
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Re: Chapter 13

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-08-15 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
oh man I am so behind (this is what I get for being pretty much entirely offline for a month, whoops), but going to do my best to catch up. A

Anyway, this chapter!

Feels like we’re getting into the weaponisation stuff for real now. The way it talks about Bian Jin’s talent, and the heights her battle-gift reached when their shizun had her fitted with a jade disc… the way it’s measured in what level of beast you could slay… the way it reads more like the forging of a weapon than the training of a person… *shovels it into my face like popcorn*

OKAY SO. *pins another red thread on the murder board* We were told that Black Box came into being the same year Shen Ni was born, right? And now we learn that Shen Ni’s and Bian Jin’s shizun was the previous super-amazing double-S-tier machinist. I don't know exactly where I'm going with this but I'm looking very closely at these dots to see if they connect somehow.

Also I laughed at the fact that the stuffed toy she hugs at night is a 黄雀. Something something the mantis stalks the cicada but PLOT TWIST the oriole is too busy being spooned by Shen Ni to do anything about it.

WHOSE VOICE?? YOU WERE WILLING TO BECOME THE **WHAT NOW**??
And the sneer as she crushes the messenger bird???? Hello.

A-Yao…You’ve grown up so much. And yet you’re still so foolish.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!
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Re: Chapter 14

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-08-15 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
oh I love what we’re doing with Zeng ‘I must be strong enough to protect people in the face of whatever comes and if that means risking overloading my capacity then so be it’, ‘I will give my life and loyalty to the one person on whom I have pinned all my hopes’ Qingluo here.
Also damn, what a backstory.
Anyway I love her.

I’m SO curious what’s going on with Bian Jin, because this chapter reads almost like she doesn’t remember what she did and thought that night, when she’s back to pining over (and inventing girlfriends out of whole cloth for) Shen Ni

Honestly for two clearly intelligent and capable people, these two are so very stupid (affectionate) sometimes.
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Re: Chapter 15

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-08-15 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I love Diwu Que already.

The image of Shen Ni desperately searching through a field of corpses is a lot.

Not to mention, when the time came, she would have to leave
So she DOES remember?? Bian Jin come here I just want to hold you upside-down by the ankles and shake you until all the secrets fall out talk.

BIAN JIN FIGHTING!!!!! BLADE OF THE EMPIRE IN ACTION HELLO!!!
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Re: Chapter 16

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-08-15 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Zeng Qingluo's purple lightning sword!?!?!?! Damn girl

Shen Ni pulling out Liu Ji's jade core like 'well I'm already dirty, may as well DISEMBOWEL'. I love her.

I also love how the narrative basically pauses at the end of the fight to establish how hot Shen Ni looks while she's covered in blood. Honestly, fair.

And her then turning to Madam Liu and going 'I just came to buy flowers, can I buy these now?' Iconic.

Something something Bian Jin staring at the broken snowglobe, something something Shen Ni washing her hands over and over before touching the flowers, something something

Being completely in another person’s grasp frustrates Bian Jin, and also gives her other Feelings that she can’t quite explain oh I am Looking at that 互攻 tag...

Loose strands of black hair fell across [Shen Ni's] eyes; all traces of tidiness, indolence, and charm were gone, replaced by something dark and sinister (lazy tl is lazy but) ohhhh this is a Look!!!
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Re: Chapter 17

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-11-28 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thoughts on this chapter: wow, that sure happened.

Okay but for real...

- Nearly incapacitated, pushing through without a word, reaching the absolute limits of her endurance is such a good look on Bian Jin. And every time her extreme pain tolerance is mentioned or demonstrated I gain years to my lifespan.

- (as Shen Ni is laying her on the operating table) Shen Ni's torso cast a shadow that enveloped Bian Jin... oh, no metaphors here, I'm sure.

- Bian Jin asking/trying/intending to like... field-medicine herself through this??? This is my entire jam. Bian Jin what the fuck.

- The part where Shen Ni is like nah any hint of gentleness/submission in Bian Jin is an illusion or is actually something else... one of the things I enjoy in weaponisation themes is the way it sometimes plays with the idea of these perceptions as a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy. Bian Jin is (was) the blade of the empire, a machine, without gentleness or softness - and if all those around her see her as such, how long or to what extent can she hold to the humanity she does in fact possess? Catnip to me, every time.

- The part where Shen Ni grips Bian Jin's wrist and says, deliberately cutting, 'You're overthinking it, Shijie. I am the doctor, you are the patient. In my eyes you are nothing but a broken machine, and who could harbour designs on a broken machine?'. The face I made at this. Deliberate cruelty is such a good look on Shen Ni, I'm kind of obsessed.

- You know that fanfic trope where it's like 'X wished they could curl up inside Y's ribcage and live there'? Anyway.

- 逆芯... girl I hope you don't think you're being subtle.
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Re: Chapter 18

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-11-28 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
- Fang Pan's metallic veil and metal lips are a Look

- I continue to kind of ship Shen Ni and Li Shan. The verbal sparring is just too good.

- The way this reappearance of Black Box - within the city and thus casting into doubt the capabilities of the tracing device that was supposed to buy them time to fortify the city's defences, not to mention in a shop that was guaranteed to draw Shen Ni's eyes - gets Shen Ni the permissions she wanted to access the R&D department and records feels almost too convenient. Like, if you were a mysterious figure who wanted the empire's top machinist to access the time capsule records for some purpose known only to you, is this not exactly how you'd arrange for it to happen? *pulls the murder board out of storage, brushes off the dust, and adds more red string*

- The way the entire interaction between Shen Ni and Bian Jin reads entirely like an awkward morning after and not at all like a medical procedure debrief!

- ‘Last night, I kept asking you stop, but you didn't. I didn't see you observing the proprieties then.’ Reader, I screamed.

- The way Bian Jin's anger makes Shen Ni's heart beat faster... ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Chapter 19

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-11-30 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
- Thinking back over the whole game of getting the R&D department access, it had been easier than she expected I don't trust it! I don't trust it!!!

- (Re the head of the Lijing Bureau) Li Ruoyuan was kind and gentle, so it was fitting that she would keep an attack dog. Oh I'm already in love

- Shen Ni sleepily groping Bian Jin... call that 擦边

- As for the rest of this chapter, RIP Bian Jin lol.
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