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douqi ([personal profile] douqi) wrote in [community profile] baihe_media2024-06-13 06:48 pm

To Embers We Return (焚情) Read-Along: Chapters 1 to 10

Ning Yuan (宁远) started serlalising her much-anticipated (especially by me) historical cyberpunk novel To Embers We Return (焚情, pinyin: fen qing, formerly known as Burning Passions but that sounded too much like the kind of historical romance that has a clinch cover with the leads' hair blowing dramatically in the wind) today. Since I know at least one other comm member is reading it as it serialises, I thought I would set up this read-along post.

Here's the updated summary for the novel (I posted about the original summary here):

When Shen Ni returned home covered in glory, the emperor granted her the position of an official of the first rank, as well as the hand in marriage of the woman she had been in love with ever since her youth, Bian Jin.

Bian Jin had once been the empire's sharpest blade — a weapon in human form whose very name filled their enemies' hearts with terror. But after a string of serious battlefield injuries, she could only stand upright with the aid of a mechanical spine.

After their wedding, unresolved conflicts between the two meant that their marriage remained unconsummated, and they continued to address each other as 'shijie' and 'shimei'. Shen Ni kept a record of every single change in the sensitivity readings of every part of Bian Jin's new cybernetic body.

Each time she made adjustments to Bian Jin's body, Shen Ni would wear gloves. She knew her shijie had an obsession with cleanliness, and hated being touched.

Bian Jin: It's just a prosthetic. There's no need for all this fuss.
Shen Ni: The proprieties must be observed.
Bian Jin: Last night, I kept asking you stop, but you didn't. I didn't see you observing the proprieties then.

As Shen Ni was fine-tuning Bian Jin's body, a small mishap resulted in Bian Jin's skin developing a heightened level of sensitivity that only Shen Ni was able to trigger. The temperature in their bridal chamber rose instantly from 'cool' to 'scorching'.

Bian Jin: Are we going to test my body again tonight? Every time my sensitivity readings go up, I'll reward you.

***

Shen Ni straightened her official's hat, and met the 'gaze' of the spybeast hovering in the air. The monster who wanted to destroy the world had finally shown its cold, poisoned claws.

Her human genes summoned her to the aid of the ancient and noble civilisation that had birthed her. She would defend it to her last breath, even if it meant having her guts smeared across the landscape.

Random passerby: Hey, I think the monster who wants to destroy the world might be your wife.
Shen Ni: (nonplussed silence)
Shen Ni: What's there to love about this greedy, corrupt world? Let it be destroyed!

The fall of a degenerate society was close at hand. The land ran red with blood.

Bian Jin, her body now in peak condition thanks to Shen Ni's efforts, placed the point of her sword against Shen Ni's heart. 'Don't you understand?' she said. 'I was just using you.'

Shen Ni, completely drenched in blood, took a step forward. 'And after you're done using me, will you reward me?'

Bian Jin: ...what.

Here is the link to the novel on JJWXC. I'll write a summary of each chapter in separate comments. Please feel free to join in, even if you're not reading the novel but are have questions/reactions. Obviously, there will be spoilers in the comments!
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-13 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually quite like pre-existing relationships too, and I think starting a story with a pre-existing relationship sorta releases the author to explore the rest of the world-building and relationships (which tbh is what I usually go for).

I'm curious about the "presumed" part of the robot soldiers. Are they actual people? Or not constructed by Shen Ni? Or it's currently a mystery?
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-15 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for answering and providing the sentence!
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-13 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Hot XD
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Ning Yuan PLEASE make it so
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] yuerstruly 2024-06-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
New Ning Yuan work! Can't believe I've read so little we've gotten to the point where this is my first work of hers. There's a lot going on in the chapter, with just a taste of Shen Ni and Bian Jin's relationship, and an overview of what's happened since Bian Jin was sent out. I shed a few tears while reading, so I'm quite excited for what the author has to bring to the table. She also leaned a lot harder into the cyberpunk than I was expecting, though I guess I was never quite sure what 'historical cyberpunk' should have entailed.
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Re: Chapter 1

[personal profile] halfcactus 2024-06-17 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I peeked at [personal profile] llonkrebboj's translation WIP (still private) and wow it just throws you into the plot huh? I will remember NONE OF THIS so ty for the summary.
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Re: Chapter 2

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-13 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Mm, memory modules. Opening the doors for manipulation there!

How does the Black Box virus function? Does it erase memories/rewrite them?
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Re: Chapter 2

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-15 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Excited to learn more about the virus~

seems like a good hurt/comfort setup too
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Re: Chapter 2

[personal profile] yuerstruly 2024-06-14 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
As much as I would love to propose "Black Rubik's Cube" for silliness, it's not plausible due to its history. Or "Black Magic Cube" but a part of my brain tends to read it as "Black Magic / Cube" instead of "Black / Magic Cube" which I'm not really a fan of.
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Re: Chapter 2

[personal profile] yuerstruly 2024-06-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Li Ruoyuan feels like a case of trying to preserve 'youth' and it doesn't seem to be out of the question given the technology we've already been introduced to so far.

I, too, hate the brother, who despite being named and being the only named man, will continuously be referred to as "the emperor's despicable brother" in my books.
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[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-13 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The summary is already FIRE. I love it!
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[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-15 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
XD I couldn't help it!
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[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for doing this! Feels like I'm reading it right along with you :-)

Are we to believe that Bian Jin, at 7 years old, was helping to take care of baby Shen Ni? Pretty mature little girl. Reminds me of my ex-gf having to rock her nephew all the time, too. To the point of having her arms almost fall off. lol

Is it just me or does it seem rather disturbing that this kind of nurturing relationship will develop into a romantic one? I don't know why I'm so hung up on this when I'm sure there's plenty of other interesting points I could be analyzing.
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-15 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I was just going to comment on this particular point as it really stood out to me. The way you described Bian Jin's olfactory reaction to Shen Ni was really very sexy. Very sexy, indeed. I also do not believe she's repulsed by her scent. Seems like she can't distinguish between being turned on or turned off. ha ha
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Turn It Off, Then Turn It Back On Again is a critical part of technical repairs, after all ;)
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, Terra Ignota is an Experience for sure (Ada Palmer certainly commits to her chosen bit, and also, speaking of prose registers--), and I admire your mental fortitude for reading that alongside, honestly, anything. Hope you enjoy it!
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] yuerstruly 2024-06-14 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Really fun chapter!! I guess I'm curious about how exactly the fortifications would work digitally and how much work/effort is put into that since it's not exactly clear to met, and we're still early into the story, with the Black Box probably not making an invasion just yet. And what do the troops do? At this point, I can't imagine them being typical of any sort, so are they technicians/engineers of sorts? LOL

The Messenger Pigeon QR Code part was really funny, and I'm personally hoping we get Bian Jin witnessing her shimei being hit on via this in the future.
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-15 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Ohh, mech horses. It feels like a very interesting setting as more details are revealed. I'm really, really curious how the Black Box virus works.

Love the feeding, the finger marks! and also lol at Bian Jin's reaction Shen Ni's smell

Hopefully the mistaken assumption (that Bian Jin doesn't reciprocate) won't take too long to resolve!
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Re: Chapter 3

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Li Ruoyuan also goes 'I know I promised you could retire but' and Shen Ni thinks to herself 'yeah that's what you promised Bian Jin too, before you sent her out on the battlefield again'.
I loved this part, hitting my beloved exhaustion/endurance tropes already! And it's an element of weaponisation that I enjoy as well, when a character just exists to be used and used and used, and any promises made to a tool or a weapon are ultimately meaningless because what is it for except to serve its purpose? (Until there is nothing else at which to aim them and then like the weapon they are, they are discarded). I'm very much looking forward to seeing where this goes for both Shen Ni and Bian Jin.

a slip of paper with her WeChat ID, I mean her Messenger Pigeon QR code
There is a 放鸽子 pun in here somewhere I know it, but I can't quite get it to work. Oh well, plenty of time.

every single part of Bian Jin's body (both the organic and cybernetic elements) including her jade core was deliberately and cruelly damaged by whoever had captured her before she came into the Court of Judicature and Revision's custody
I'm new to Ning Yuan but apparently she has the cheat codes to my id, so, okay, here we are. This, and the part where Shen Ni is carrying Bian Jin and thinking about her pain tolerance, is excellent for us whump lovers. Can't wait to get more detail on what exactly happened to put Bian Jin in that state.
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Re: Chapter 4

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG BIAN JIN JIEJIE SO COOL AAAAAAAAAAA

Not pictured: me, grinning and kicking my feet back and forth like a schoolgirl as I read this part of the chapter.

That and the subsequent If they had crossed swords, Bian Jin’s blade would no doubt have already pierced [Zeng Qingluo’s] heart is an excellent serving of hypercompetence.
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Re: Chapter 4

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-18 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Bian Jian calmly pulls out a concealed dagger — to be clear, this is Zeng Qingluo's dagger, which she has hidden away very well on her person — and tells Zeng Qingluo to wait for her there.

Nice!

catches hold of Bian Jin round the waist and pulls her behind her.

Very nice <3

I think Bian Jin should take the other eye. Li Chu sounds very unpleasant.
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[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
It's here it's here it's here!!! I have been so excited for this ever since you first mentioned it in this community, and the intro/summary has been living rent-free in my brain. Time to feast!
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[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-15 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay hi hello I have actually read the chapters now, and I need there to be more!!

My main impression so far is that I am, predictably, obsessed with Bian Jin.

I mean, her first appearance is ruthlessly wielding a whip made of bone against her own shimei (but don’t look too closely at how her hand trembles) and her second appearance is as a presumed traitor tortured/beaten to what seems like well beyond ordinary human endurance, and these are my two favourite states for a character to be in, so.

(The fact that her next appearance is casually confident in her ability to do a royal murder, having just plucked a dagger from where it was hidden on someone else's body, only adds to the whole situation).

Also there’s the whole weaponisation aspect, which is a trope I love dearly, and I’m really enjoying what we’ve been given of it so far. The way Bian Jin is the ‘blade of the empire’, with exceptional combat skills and a largely cybernetic body, promised retirement and instead repaired and sent back to war, broken but mending faster than any normal human would, and brushing off any concern for her injuries… and yet also there are so many moments that focus specifically on (Shen Ni perceiving) her flesh-and-blood humanity. The way Shen Ni can tell how much pain she must be in from the quiet whimpers of pain she can’t quite suppress as she’s being carried. The way Shen Ni’s fingerprints linger on her skin and Shen Ni wonders if her skin always marked so easily. The strands of hair clinging to her skin and the way she flushes with exertion as she relearns how to walk. Obviously some of it is just Shen Ni being very physically Aware of her wife shijie, but especially given the setting it feels like something that could be used as a way to play in that deliciously angsty space of weapon-or-human.

Shen Ni is intriguing to me as well, especially in terms of making me curious about what happened in the six or so years between The Whipping Scene and now: how she defeated the virus and earned her reputation as the top mechanist, her relationship with the emperor, and how she went from the somewhat rash and undisciplined girl Bian Jin remembers to the seemingly controlled (though not without a flair for the dramatic, it seems) and charismatic woman she is now. She is clearly also obsessed with Bian Jin, and I’m definitely here to watch how exactly that plays out, beyond just what the preview/intro has given us.

Beyond the two leads, I’m very intrigued by the worldbuilding of course, and what flavour of cyberpunk we end up going for. I’m also interested to see more of both of the lady emperors introduced so far (enemies-to-lovers sideplot? Probably not but a girl can dream). I want to know more about Zeng Qingluo, and who she offended to get herself blacklisted from government office (I love a competent second-in-command who turns out to be easily as unhinged as whoever they’re serving, just quieter about it; too early to say if that’s where we’re going with her but I feel like there’s potential).

Can't wait for more!
Edited (typo) 2024-06-15 15:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-16 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a very compelling pitch for The Creator's Grace, not going to lie! (Honestly, you had me at 'she's strong, she suffers a lot', but the weapon-or-otherwise-object-created-for-use in particular is catnip to me). Also for some reason I had assumed this was one of the super long ones, and it's not, so it is now sitting on my ereader waiting for me to finish some of the other books I'm in the middle of. Looking forward to it!

(I do not at all mind unsolicited recommendations btw; I'm not always good about getting to them in a timely fashion because the state of my to-read list is best not mentioned, but if in doubt please do not hesitate).
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Re: Chapter 5

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-16 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding your AAAAAAAAAAAAA. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Wow, what a trip reading that summary was. (I'm having a particularly hard time typing with an incorrectly wrapped band aid on my finger ... who knew peelers could be so sharp!?!).

Did not imagine Shen Ni to be so audacious but alas, at the end, nothing salacious happened. Dang. hahah I want a lot more of these instances. Nothing like a slow buildup to get a nice explosion somewhere down the line. teehee Slowly then suddenly.

I was unclear about how they were viewing the chat, too. Sometimes, it's difficult to picture these futuresque settings.

Since I can't read the original myself, I'll have to continue wondering if your summaries are even better than the story itself. I would not be surprised if it was. Also, I'm embarrassed to admit I sometimes have to look up the definition of some of the words you use. HA HA he
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Re: Chapter 5

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-17 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Your summaries are the only things I know and I love them ;)
Truly, they’re so great.
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Re: Chapter 5

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-16 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck or commit high treason, a variant on fuck or die.
True power couples fuck and commit high treason
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Re: Chapter 5

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-16 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The 'wait she's in this group chat?!?!' moment was a) hilarious and b) all too relatable. RIP.

Shen Ni thinking ah yes it's all for the best that not as many guests come; Bian Jin shouldn't be standing for too long with her replacement spine - got some other ideas of what she should be doing, Shen Ni? Hm?
(I also love the contrast between like
Shen Ni: shijie should not stand too long or exert herself too much and should drink the nutrient broth and you know what, probably best I just carry her everywhere
Bian Jin: *calmly plotting royal murder with a borrowed weapon as a first resort*
)

On the mask: 1) love that Shen Ni demonstrates the colour-changing capabilities by cycling through a literal rainbow. Love wins, etc. 2) I can't be the only one thinking of Other Uses for a material with adjustable opacity/transparency, right?? I just think they could get creative with it. Ahem. Anyway.

Bian Jin thinking 'wait does that mean every smallest detail about me is stored in her memory?' combined with Shen Ni's thoughts last chapter about how she remembers everything that has ever happened between them, even the things she might not want to, definitely pings my foreshadowing/there's-more-to-this-backstory radar. What do you not want her to remember about you, Bian Jin?

And then YES I am extremely with you on thinking there must be more to this than the whipping, to make Bian Jin think of herself as having 'let down' her shimei, and to think that she doesn't deserve such a show of trust from Shen Ni as bringing her out of the prison and tying their lives together. Especially given that what we know of their past so far is that Bian Jin came dramatically to her rescue on the battlefield before dragging her back for said whipping. So then...what did you do Bian Jin? Obviously she's suspected of treason, and while I doubt it's quite that simple I do wonder what exactly transpired during those years she was missing... (Is this just my obsession with betrayals of all kinds, looking for anything to latch onto? Maybe!)

Bian Jin absolutely killing the romance by tossing her fan aside was a delight, especially from Shen Ni's faintly aggrieved but practical POV. And then Shen Ni doing her shameless-but-outwardly-guileless play of asking the two Lijing officials if they need to come in and watch? I love that we seem to be seeing more of her scheming side, and I'm definitely here for more of that.

On sash vs belt: I don't think either would stand out to me as long as it was consistent throughout the scene; given they're in bridal robes here I think 'sash' works. But now I'm going to overthink this every time I come across a 腰带, so thanks for that XD
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Re: Chapter 5

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-18 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm wondering vaguely whether it's a sort of 'must betray the empire for the greater good'/'the empire is the evil one' kind of deal.

Where exactly did that virus come from, I wonder. (This is my first encounter with Ning Yuan's work so I have no idea which direction she's likely to go on this kind of thing but I'm very excited to find out!)
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[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
This was a jam-packed summary, full of goodies. It feels like a lot got revealed between the two. Really enjoyed it!

Regarding Traitor’s End … is that the one you’re thinking of translating? *easily confused*

I feel like aunties getting asked to listen in on wedding night activities can handle it more ‘scientifically’ because they’re less likely to be affected, if you catch my drift. Hahaha

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[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-18 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
the title of 'baihe author whose girlfriend is a sex toy designer' belongs to a different author
1) Might I ask who does hold this illustrious title?
2) The florist/tattoo artist fic trope needs to get on this level
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[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-19 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder how long that particular career could realistically last? I mean, how many ways can you design a sex toy? I guess I'm pretty vanilla in that respect. haha hahaa
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[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-18 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
'I'll take you to the bed. Relax, you shouldn't strain your core, or it will stress your spine. Here, put all your weight on me
...I know I joked about this last chapter but now she's just saying it out loud.

Her voice was flat as she pointed this out to Shen Ni, detached as an accomplished monk, without desire or sentiment
Listen, Shen Ni, I'm ace; I know what 'without desire' looks like. Bian Jin ain't it.

Ning Yuan PLEASE give us some of the 'descriptions' provided for the 'pleasure aids', I'm begging. (Partly because I just think it would be funny, but also I'm genuinely curious if these are cyberpunk sex toys or the more traditional sort. These are important worldbuilding details!)

How exactly did Shen Ni verify that Bian Jin had never had any romantic experiences with or feelings for anyone? Maybe I'm overthinking this but the way it's phrased seems to leave little room for doubt, and I can't help wondering if something did in fact happen between these two beyond Shen Ni's 'one-sided confession'... I mean, on the one hand surely not, right? But on the other hand.

(I have to admit the 'cold and competent but sexually inexperienced and awkward about it' is not my personal favourite trope but oh well, we'll see where it goes.)

'I was young and inexperienced back then, and mistook reliance for love. But I had a few relationships before we reunited, and have long since forgotten my old crush' ...hey Shen Ni, quick question, exactly how far down your throat can you continue to shove your foot? Asking for science.
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[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-18 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
She promises that, within two years, she'll be able to fully repair Bian Jin's jade core

I'm looking forward to the spine repair. I like h/c caretaker/taken-cared of type scenarios, and mechanist + person who needs something fixed is a very specific type of this that I really like.

also super curious about the sex toys XD
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[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-18 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the detailed summaries!
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-19 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I read this after I commented on Twitter but your last point ... YES, I agree. Anybody with more than two brain cells could figure out that Shen Ni is still hung up on her. But I also understand why Bian Jin would trust her on her word when she says she isn't in love with her any longer. I mean, you'd have to be pretty up yourself if you go around thinking someone's still in love with you when they blatantly declare they're over you.

Sorry, I'm always going on and on about the Feelings part(s) of a chapter. I'm more into that than the technical, sci-fi, futuristic stuff.

Also, I don't get why you laughed about the TangPro stuff. I'm especially interested because Tang is my maternal grandmother's surname.
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-20 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Wondering now if Bian Jin did that herself.
That indeed does not seem outside the realm of possibility (and I have also enjoyed similar plot points in other stories so would not be remotely disappointed if this were the case).

Do we think time-travel is within bounds for a cyberpunk novel?
I was definitely thrown by it! Which again could be because I tend to just have a weird blind spot around time travel in that it's not something I ever expect in a story unless it's explicitly stated as the whole premise, and it's also not something I typically seek out in speculative fiction. But it does feel like it's walking the edge of the genre definition - I think it'll depend somewhat on how it ends up being used and/or explained. There are ways I could see it being made to fit more comfortably under 'cyberpunk' (simulation, tech that can look/reach into parallel timelines without actually moving backwards and forwards in a single one, turning out to actually be a case of post-apocalyptic setting where there was a technology-level reset that makes the past seem futuristic, etc.) but I'm definitely raising my eyebrows a bit.

OH HELLO.
WHO ARE YOU WHAT IS GOING ON
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-19 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
LMFAO - it's cute to see you fangirling over someone. It's also hard for me to picture you being like this but I'm starting to see it. Ning Yuan is an extremely capable writer, it seems. As an added bonus, her stories are longgggg ... which I just lurveee. ;-)

I just saw that you're going to translate Ravenous. Super excited for it!!! I don't think I've read any of her stories so your translation of that will be the first for me. :)
Edited 2024-06-19 02:05 (UTC)
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-19 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently all the technological information to which we owe the cyberpunk element of this universe was discovered by the founder of the current dynasty (and Li Ruoyuan's ancestor), sealed up in a capsule from, quite literally, the future.

I wonder if we will get to know more about this detail... Future tech to the past, but why?

Bian Jin reflects that people used to have secondary brains implanted into their bodies, but that provided the Black Box venue with an easy route to invasion, so people have now largely moved on to external devices.

Trying to picture this is a little hard. On the body where? External devices where?

Shen Ni is no longer in love with her, she's still taking full responsibility for Bian Jin's well-being within the scope of this loveless marriage.

Hahaha, sureee (+1 to your comment on this)

I am looking forward to memory shenanigans. Possibility of erasure/rewrite (messing with memories is always a fun thing to read!)
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-20 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
This chapter was a wild ride, mostly because I never expect time travel so am always thrown whenever it shows up. And then before I could digest that, ‘TangPro’ comes flying in out of nowhere XD

(Shen Ni: ‘welcome to…’ *dramatically pulls off sunglasses as her official robes whip around in the wind* ‘…TangPro’)

Anyway I now have all kinds of increasingly implausible theories around the time travel and Black Box… Unintended consequences of breaking through the barriers in time/timelines? Deliberately planted for nefarious purposes? The solution to time travel but not understood or implemented correctly? The little description we have of it so far in terms of mutation/fluidity/the Rubiks cube imagery does feel like something that could happen as a result of or in relation to fucking with time or timelines in some way, but who knows! There’s also a small part of me wondering if the ‘time travel’ is in fact legit or if there are some shenanigans involved there as well.

And thinking about the virus has me thinking about Bian Jin’s missing time and, okay, baseless wild theory time: what if she and the army she was leading were all infected with it, and breaking all the cybernetic components of her body was the only way to ‘cure’ her by destroying anything the virus could latch onto (why her organic body would also have been broken by this I don’t know so that’s a snag in this theory admittedly but still). And then that’s why there are rumours of uncharacteristic behaviour, and she can’t access the memories, because doing so would like… release the virus again? Or something?

The sun rose behind Li Ruoyang, its golden rays casting a vast and lengthening shadow across the ground
This is just an innocent line of description with absolutely no further meaning I’m sure.

Shen Ni was well aware [of what Li Ruoyuan was doing by putting all the responsibility for the city’s defences on her], but the defences did have to be built. Otherwise, when the Black Box virus rose again and attacked the capital, the devastation would break Bian Jin’s heart
I know we got a hint of this already in the preview/intro but I am eyes.emoji at Shen Ni’s motivation here. (In a good way. I enjoy this flavour of unhinged).
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Re: Chapter 7

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-21 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I have not done this much live speculation since my misspent years as a Lost watcher, and it's fun.
Yeah I haven't followed a WIP of any kind in a while, but am very much enjoying this somewhat nostalgic return to wild speculation.

Speaking of which, chapter 10 gives us more to chew on (hehe) here and I am in full red-string-on-a-murder-board mode.
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Re: Chapter 8

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-19 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
We're all thinking about creative uses for this technology, right?

absolutely XD
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Re: Chapter 8

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-20 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
We're all thinking about creative uses for this technology, right?
;)

Wow, what is this marital property regime? Community property PLUS? Community property RETROACTIVE?
Community property PRO?
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Re: Chapter 8

[personal profile] geraineon 2024-06-19 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Shen Ni is so careful and caring for Bian Jin

Bian Jin pauses at this, and thinks to herself that, since she and Shen Ni and now married and hold their property in common, she should let Shen Ni know that she's planning to make such a big purchase. She sends a screenshot of the whip and Messenger Pigeons it to Shen Ni with the note 'I'd like to buy this.'

Shen Ni has just woken up, and is delighted that Bian Jin would send her a message, and even more delighted that Bian Jin would ask her for a present. She immediately replies, saying 'Buy it, I've transferred you five hundred taels.' This merely confuses Bian Jin.


I love this. Very cute chapter!
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Re: Chapter 8

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-20 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
This chapter felt like a much-needed pause to catch my breath after that last chapter slightly broke my brain.

The list of functions the couples’ module can provide… 1) yikes 2) ;) 3) one of my favourite extremely-specific-tropes is hidden pain being revealed against the sufferer’s will via some form of sense-sharing so I am LOOKING.

NOOOO SHE LOST HER BONE-WHIP????
(…why exactly do you think the whip will help you recover your memories, Bian Jin? Is something stored in there, perhaps? Or is this just straightforward ‘feeling more like myself again will help me remember’?)

Shen Ni happily buying a whip for her wife is fun even without context but their shared history certainly adds another layer to it.
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Re: Chapter 10

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I am loving Shen Ni’s smiling sweetly whilst ruining someone’s day routine.

Li Ruoyuan should have tasked Meng Chu with verifying the consummation given how avidly she’s staring at this little performance.

Bian Jin, that ice-cold weapon in human form
OH THIS IS WHAT I AM HERE FOR!!

Bian Jin if you don't want that portion of tong sui please can I have it?
(Is there a Hui Lau Shan PRO in this world?)
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Re: Chapter 10

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-24 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
why is the only Hui Lau Shan in the UK in Nottingham of all places.
RIGHT?? What is it doing there?? I have so many questions.
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Re: Chapter 10

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-21 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what stood out to me? Strawberry cheesecake. Love cheesecake but not after eating steamed fish. lol *redacted*

I honestly don't know who'll feel the biggest tingle from the feeding incident: fingertips or lips?? Been on the fingertip end but not the lips, so if anyone can speak from experience, please stand up.
Edited (regrets … I’ve had a few) 2024-06-21 20:17 (UTC)
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Re: Chapter 10

[personal profile] kwirkee76 2024-06-22 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet _before_ savory? Absolutely absurd! Those two are rebels. lol

Love reading the minutiae of their (obvious to us) attraction to each other.
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Re: Chapter 10

[personal profile] neuxue 2024-06-24 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
1) Still no actual descriptions of the items in the 'box of delights'. How are we meant to work in these conditions.

2) Can't wait for Shen Ni and Bian Jin to inadvertently end up in a dark-web bidding war with one another, without either one realising who she's bidding against.

3) THE DREAM THE DREAM THE DREAM!!!! The 'every version of you' part is particularly interesting because the notion of time-fuckery plus the few descriptions we've had of the virus is again making me wonder how... literal... this all is. Are we doing some kind of merging-of-timelines? Is the virus a way of, like, terraforming the past so that the inhabitants of the future can occupy or use or connect with it? And then the ambiguity of just how active/willing a participant(/instigator? surely not but what if?) Bian Jin was in these activities (at least from the perspective of the mostly-disembodied dream-voice) that may or may not have led to her body being in the state in which Shen Ni found it has me imagining a whole range of possible scenarios, all of which are delicious.
(Also coming back to this after having read ch13 I am just eyes.emoji at the whole thing. AAAAAAA)